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Obsolete part replacement, manufactured in metal

The component is out of production, the drawings never existed or went with the company that made them, and the machine is standing. We measure what you have, establish what it was made from, produce a drawing you own, and see the replacement manufactured. Quantity of one is fine.

Orthographic engineering drawing of a flanged housing recovered from a sample part: front view with a four-hole bolt circle, section A–A with material hatching, dimensioned with a toleranced bore and a title block noting that the material is to be confirmed by analysis FIG. 01 — GEOMETRY RECOVERED FROM SAMPLE NO ORIGINAL DRAWING A A ⌀120 h7 FUNCTIONAL FIT PCD 96 4 × ⌀9 SECTION A–A 18 HOUSING, FLANGED MATL: TBC ON ANALYSIS PROJ: FIRST ANGLE SHT 1/1 1:2 BS 8888
Fig. 01 — Geometry recovered from a sample component, dimensioned and toleranced for manufacture.
Why people call

Five situations, one problem: the part cannot be bought

  • The OEM has stopped making it, or stopped trading

    The machine is fine. The part is out of the catalogue, the equivalent does not fit, and any drawings went with the company.

  • The lead time is unacceptable

    The part exists, at sixteen weeks. Your machine does not have sixteen weeks.

  • The only one you have is broken

    You have the pieces, or a part worn well past its original dimensions, and no reference for what it should be.

  • There was never a drawing

    It was made from a pattern, a sample or somebody’s judgement, and nothing was written down.

  • You need a second source

    One supplier, one part number, no alternative — and your name against that risk on a register somewhere.

The difference

Most UK reverse engineering hands you a CAD file and wishes you luck

There are two kinds of firm in this market and neither solves the whole problem. Scanning bureaux measure your part beautifully and deliver a model — at which point finding somebody to make one, in the right material, to the right fits, is your problem again. Obsolete parts specialists mostly find old stock; when the stock has gone, so has the answer.

The handover between them is where jobs fail. The bureau does not know what the part has to do. The machinist does not know which dimensions came off a worn surface. Nobody owns the question of whether the finished component fits.

What £750 covers

Measurement, material work, the drawing and the first article — one price, one organisation accountable for the part fitting. Elsewhere those are three quotations from three suppliers that stack, and the cheapest of them is only the first step.

Route

From the part in your hand to the part on the machine

You are told what we found at each stage, including when what we found was inconvenient.

Process route: sample part, measurement, material identification, drawing, manufacture, first-off inspection 01 SAMPLE 02 MEASURE 03 MATERIAL 04 DRAWING 05 MANUFACTURE 06 INSPECT FIG. 02 — ROUTE SINGLE ACCOUNTABILITY
01

Assess before you commit

Send photographs and tell us what the part does. We say whether this is straightforward, difficult or a bad idea before anyone raises a purchase order. Some enquiries end here, with the part still available from a distributor for less than our engineering would cost. That is a good outcome.

02

Measure, and record what is worn

Dimensional inspection with every measured feature recorded against what it does. Damage, wear and previous repairs are noted rather than averaged away.

03

Establish the material

This is the question that decides whether the replacement lasts: a visually identical component in the wrong grade will fit perfectly and fail early. We work from duty, environment and hardness, and where it matters, independent chemical analysis. The drawing states whether the grade was tested or inferred.

04

Recover design intent, and draw it

Measuring a worn part to three microns tells you what it is now, not what it was designed to be. Functional dimensions — fits, registers, sealing faces, threads — are toleranced for duty; everything else gets a stated general tolerance and no false precision. To BS 8888, in DXF, DWG, STEP, PDF, and yours. How this judgement is made

05

Manufacture

Cut, folded, welded, machined and finished, or placed with a specialist supplier where the process warrants it. You are told which before you order.

06

Inspect, and leave a route to the next one

Dimensional report against the drawing, material certification where it was specified, and the drawing package archived so a repeat order is a purchase order rather than a project. If it does not fit, that is ours to put right.

Before you order

If the part is safety-critical, the conversation changes

A guard interlock bracket, a lifting component or a pressure-retaining part is not a reverse engineering exercise with a certificate stapled to it. For those we agree in advance what evidence is required — material certification to EN 10204, batch traceability, the inspection regime, who is signing off the duty, and whether replacing the component affects the conformity of the machine it goes into.

Sometimes the answer is that we should not be the ones making it. We would rather say so than take the order.

What to send

In order of usefulness

Most enquiries start with the first item and nothing else.

Photographs
The part from several angles with a rule or vernier in shot, and one picture of where it sits in the machine.
The mating part
Often the most valuable item of all, because it defines the fits the replacement has to achieve.
What it does
Load, speed, temperature, what it bolts to, what happens when it fails. This drives tolerancing more than any measurement.
Anything written down
An old purchase order, a parts-list extract, a photograph of a plate. Partial documentation is still documentation.
The real deadline
Not the comfortable one. If the machine is down we plan the job differently.

What is included, and what moves the price

Questions

Straight answers

Usually. A broken part is often easier than a worn one, because the fracture surfaces still carry the original geometry. Worn parts need more judgement: we are recovering what the component was when it was made, not reproducing its current condition. Copying a worn part gives you a replacement already part-way through its life on the day it is fitted.

If you have two, send both. How we recover a nominal from a worn feature

Not to start. Photographs with a rule or vernier in shot, plus a picture of where it sits in the machine, are usually enough to tell you whether this is worth pursuing. For anything with fits, threads or complex geometry we will need the part in our hands — and if it is still bolted into a running machine, we will talk about when it can come out, or come to it.

Yes. Quantity of one is the normal case here, not an awkward exception. The engineering work is the same whether you order one or forty, so the first part carries most of the cost — worth knowing if you have three identical machines.

Laser cutting, CNC punching and folding, steel fabrication, MIG, TIG and spot welding, and CNC and manual machining. That covers most fabricated and machined components.

It does not cover everything. Castings, forgings, gear cutting, heat treatment, plating and specialist coatings are placed with specialist suppliers we manage, and we tell you which parts of your job are which before you order.

For a component you are reproducing to keep your own equipment running, you are in the territory UK design law most clearly accommodates — the interface geometry that makes a part fit is the part of a design least likely to attract protection. If you intend to make parts to sell, that is a different question and deserves proper advice first. We raise this at enquiry stage rather than at invoice stage. The full position, and where to stop and take advice

Next step

Send us a photograph of the part.

That is the whole first step. No specification, no drawing, no purchase order — a photograph and a line about what the part does. We reply within one working day with whether we can help, and if we cannot, who else to try.